AFTERSHOCK
An interview with Adrienne Kennedy
by Ryan McKittrick
RM: What prompted you to write The Ohio State Murders?
AK: I'd always wanted to write about Ohio State. And I knew it had
to be fictionalized. But I could never think of what the plot would
be. Then I was teaching at Stanford during the 1989 earthquake. That
was the closest I'd ever come to death. I was sitting at my desk when
the earthquake started. I got confused and mistakenly ran into the
closet. I recovered from the earthquake, but I couldn't recover from
the aftershocks. The police put yellow tape and a sign that read "Do
Not Enter" in my yard. And I had to go live in another house for two
weeks because of the damage. After the earthquake, I suddenly began
to remember Ohio State. And this play started to pour out of me. I
finished it in six weeks.
RM: So that dangerous, destructive environment reminded you of
Ohio State?
AK: I'm sure you're right. But I've never tried to define my
states of mind when I write. I was just in a state of fear and
agitation after the earthquake.
RM: "College" is one of the shortest chapters in your
autobiography, People Who Led to My Plays. What kept you from
writing in more depth about Ohio State for so long?
AK: I couldn't. I felt that the white world at Ohio State was
against me. Totally. And the person who saved me was my husband to
be.
RM: In the early sixties, your trip to Europe and Africa inspired you to complete
your first play, Funnyhouse of a Negro. Landscape and a sense of place
has a great impact on the narrator in The Ohio State
Murders. Is geography something that inspired you to write this play?
AK: Very much so. I get excited by landscape. I feel enclosed by
it. I feel it is speaking to me. Ohio State was dark. It had those
dark buildings. The main part of campus was built around 1890. And it
had all these paths that were so intriguing to me. It had a lake and
a river and a ravine. And it was quite thrilling to me.
RM: Thrilling in a terrifying way?
AK: Yes. Exactly. But you see, I don't want to mix the play up
with my own experiences. Adrienne the person went to Ohio State,
barely made it through, got engaged, got married, and went to
parties. The play is much darker. But it's how I felt. There were
27,000 whites at Ohio State and maybe about 300 blacks. And I felt
that Ohio State hated me and was trying to destroy me.

Ruby Dee as Suzanne Alexander in the world
premiere production of The Ohio State Murders at the
1992 Great Lakes Festival
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RM: How were you able to develop there as a writer?
AK: I didn't develop there as a writer. Oh, no. All my friends and
I majored in elementary education. I was going to be an elementary
school teacher, exactly like my mother. After college, I moved to New
York with my husband. He was a grad student getting his PhD at
Columbia, and I had a baby. And I would stay up all night long and
write. I had circles under my eyes. People laughed at me - I'm still
kind of bitter about that. People thought it was funny that this
little housewife, the wife of a successful student, wanted to be a
writer. People would say, "Can you come to the park with us?" And I'd
say, "No, I can't come to the park; I'm working on my novel." For ten
years I tried writing novels, short stories, scenes. I owe everything
to my former husband. He never laughed at me and he read every word I
wrote. Sometimes he really worried about me because I would cry when
my novels were rejected. It took me several weeks to get out of that
mood after my work was rejected. But my husband supported me. And
those ten years were the years I developed as a writer.
RM: A number of your plays, including The Ohio State
Murders, have a narrator, which traditionally is a device of the novel.
What do you find dramatically appealing about a narrator?
AK: In all the pieces I was trying to write in my twenties, I didn't have a
narrator; and there was something wrong with them. When I saw Martha Graham's
troupe perform Clytaemnestra in my mid-twenties, I liked the idea that
there was one person saying all these things. It led me to read the Greek plays,
particularly Antigone and Electra. I was very drawn to the Greek
heroines, and that's really what I was trying to imitate. I was trying to make
Suzanne Alexander [the narrator of The Ohio State
Murders] like Antigone or Electra. Lorca's Poet in New York,
which I must have read in 1955, also inspired me to write characters who narrate
their inner worlds. I think I've spent my whole life trying to write Poet
in New York.
RM: Besides the narrator, what attracts you to that collection of
poetry?
AK: The turbulence of the imagery. And the landscape of Manhattan.
RM: Many of your narrators experience intense identification with
fictional characters or movie stars. Do you also identify with
fictional characters?
AK: Very much so. I just feel so close to fictional people. I've
always been like that. When I read Jane Eyre, she was more
real to me that whole winter than, say, my own family. As a kid, for
the whole summer I might be Bette Davis. My mother took me to the
movies every weekend; and I could tell she liked the movies a lot.
And the movies took on an import. They always made her very moody and
tearful. So I'd pay closer attention. She'd come home, smoke a
cigarette and look very sad for a couple hours. Then she might tell
me a story - she's a great storyteller. Most of my heroines have the
same tone as my mother. I was just transfixed by her storytelling
about her early life. Just as I've spent so much of my life trying to
write Poet in New York, I also think that I've spent my whole
life trying to recapture the drama with which my mother told her
stories. My father also influenced me. He was a social worker who
always spoke at banquets. At those banquets with jello salads, my
father would get up and give a speech about the cause of the American
Negro.
RM: Suzanne Alexander, the narrator in The Ohio State
Murders, references the end of her story at the beginning of the play.
Why?

Robbie McCauley, Gloria Foster, and Frank
Adu in the 1976 New York Shakespeare Festival production of A Movie Star Has to Star in Black and
White.
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AK: I value suspense greatly. I love Hitchcock. I'm also always
trying to write Vertigo. I saw his movies when I was an
adolescent. Strangers on a Train. Spellbound. Shadow of a
Doubt.
RM: So you provide glimpses of the end to heighten the suspense?
AK: Yes. I'm trying to do that.
RM: Suzanne Alexander, like other characters in your plays,
repeats herself throughout her story. From where does your
appreciation for repetition come, and why do you use it in your
plays?
AK: I studied Latin for four years in high school. My Latin
teacher was my greatest teacher. She used to read us the same
passages about Julius Caesar over and over again. I couldn't always
read the Latin words, but when she read it, I knew what she was
saying. My mother also told the same stories over and over again. And
I think I realized the hypnotic value of that. She might say, "My
stepfather was killed crossing a railroad track." And then the next
time she might say, "My stepfather stepped on a live wire." She would
always vary it a little. I also think I've been trying to imitate
Negro spirituals in my plays. I love the repetition in Negro
spirituals. And the emotional language. When I would go to church as
a child with my father, I would notice people around me were crying.
One of my favorite spirituals was, "Mary don't you weep, don't you
weep, don't you weep, don't you weep." I really understand now, that
all these things take hold of you when you're terribly young.
RM: How do you greet the production of The Ohio State
Murders at the A.R.T.?
AK: When I see my plays, I'm sort of upset. I'm not a really good judge of
them on stage. I get upset because I still can't believe that I have all these
things just boiling inside of me. I don't see my plays more than once or twice
when they're produced; and I seldom ever re-read them. Something about it is
disturbing. But I'm excited about Ohio State being produced at the A.R.T. because I love the theatre and I admire Bob Brustein
a lot. The fact that I've seen the play produced on three previous occasions
might allow me to enjoy this production. Hopefully. I don't get many productions
of my plays. People tend to teach them, but they rarely produce them.
RM: You've taught playwriting at many colleges and universities,
including Harvard. Which of your own approaches to playwriting do you
pass on to your students?
AK: I rely heavily on my dreams, so I encourage students to keep
track of their dream images. I always try to be aware of what I'm
dreaming, and I steal from those images. My play, A Rat's
Mass, for example, was based on this recurrent dream that I was
being chased by bloodied rats. I also encourage students to write
things that are of importance. Very often we writers, all writers,
tend to write about things that are trivial. So I try to get people
to write about something important that happened to them.
Ryan McKittrick is a second-year dramaturgy
student at the A.R.T./MXAT Institute for Advanced Theatre
Training.
American Repertory Theatre
This page updated
March 21, 2000
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